"The logic! It does nothing!"
Apr. 5th, 2004 09:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
40cakesI can't decide which stupid icon to use for this. Really. But since I just used the flame war icon previously, I'll go for "Everyone's retarded!"
About a week ago, I mentioned a bad fic I had reviewed, and the author caught up to me personally in email a month later.
Her minions harassed![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
arafel and jaina first. They were biding time until they grew enough clit to come see me. (Now, I say that because I'm conceited. It's probably because they're too stupid to come directly to me.)
In my previous aforementioned post, I changed names to protect the innocent. I have no such qualms about the stupid.
You have just entered room "Redmagelilith Chat323."
Redmagelilith: Okay, finally it has worked. As I said both Sassy and I want to talk with you.
SassyHush: Yes, we do. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: hi!
SassyHush: I'll come out with it-what's with the flaming?
FentonsNakedMom: define flaming.
SassyHush: NO.
Redmagelilith: A flame is a review that makes a personal attack on the writer.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: There is a big difference between that and a negative review.
FentonsNakedMom: it's great that we agree so far.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* The problem is people can get two different viewpoints from watching the same series.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm rereading my review for the part where i said you were omg a stoopid ho
SassyHush: You cursed at us. . .stated that our viewpoints were OOC on all characters. . .
Redmagelilith: That's not what I meant. You insulted my intellegence and even Sassy agrees with me.
SassyHush: That I do-you insulted both of us.
FentonsNakedMom: you know what? i'm sorry. I offended your viewpoint, and I must apologize.
SassyHush: :-) Thank you.
Redmagelilith: Thank you.
FentonsNakedMom: You've shown me the light. Now I'm going to write a fic where Vash rapes Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborts her himself and eats the fetus.
FentonsNakedMom: Because I interpret that as his dark side.
SassyHush: *sigh
Redmagelilith: Galaxia, that is not what I meant.
SassyHush: No, it is not what we meant
FentonsNakedMom: you took humorous irony and based a serious fic about it.
SassyHush: If you keep up flaming our work and mocking us, your name is going to show up as an anonymous review on every new WolfwoodxVash fic. . .
FentonsNakedMom: that's sweet of you
FentonsNakedMom: and also very mature.
Redmagelilith: You want new blood on the Trigun section, yet flame the heck out of any original and fresh ideas.
FentonsNakedMom: you still haven't pointed out the flame in my review. copy and paste, baby.
SassyHush: And you also flame pairings because they are not VashxMeryl.
FentonsNakedMom: do i know? fuck, i didn't know that.
FentonsNakedMom: forgive my grammar error. *do I now?
Redmagelilith: Watch your mouth. Please, no cussing.
SassyHush: I mean, there's as much to argue AGAINST VxM as for it.
Redmagelilith: Plus in your first flame, you took a scene out of context.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection, your honor. Prosecution still has yet to prove the flames in aforementioned review.
SassyHush: "It's okay. This is in no way a proper or decent fanfic." Flame one.
FentonsNakedMom: alright.
Redmagelilith: "Geez, you know what? Maybe that's too harsh. But it's snazzy." Still flaming.
SassyHush: Then you asked Arafel to flame us.
FentonsNakedMom: I did no such thing.
SassyHush: There's more than one flame from her there
FentonsNakedMom: actually, there's a negative review. Objection number two.
SassyHush: No. It is a flame.
Redmagelilith: "Vash. Who wept in the streets rather than shoot a man who had wiped out the town. " You took the scene out of context.
SassyHush: Your review is a flame. It is beyond simple negativity on the story, it is a personal attack.
FentonsNakedMom: what was proper context?
SassyHush: That you did.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, this was a month ago, at least. Did it take the two of you that long to grow big enough clitorises to talk to me about this?
Redmagelilith: Diablo. Vash had his gun arm shoved right up against Monev's eye. He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
SassyHush: You're flaming right now EG
FentonsNakedMom: this is a conversation. that's just an insult.
SassyHush: Yes, which you seem to be good at.
FentonsNakedMom: danke!
SassyHush: Yes, you are the pro of insulting people.
Redmagelilith: Because I posted the fourth part of Letters and I want you to leave us alone.
Redmagelilith: That's why.
SassyHush: Yes. :-)
FentonsNakedMom: because you posted it to a public forum. where the public can see it. and is free to state their opinions of it. welcome to America and the internet.
FentonsNakedMom: You have a right to free speech. post as many fics as you'd like
FentonsNakedMom: I have a right to read them.
FentonsNakedMom: And a right to say, "Dude. Vash as a drug addict? Please."
Redmagelilith: Did you ever read Dreamwalker, Galaxia?
FentonsNakedMom: Now Sass, I wouldn't say I'm a pro. I am no Empress of the Zing Dynasty.
FentonsNakedMom: can't say I have. The Stephen King novel, or is this a fanfic?
Redmagelilith: Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
Redmagelilith: You just ignored the author's notes.
FentonsNakedMom: I often do.
Redmagelilith: Well that's a stupid thing to do.
FentonsNakedMom: how so? i don't read the author bio in real books, either.
Redmagelilith: Author's notes often contain warnings.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not afraid of anything.
FentonsNakedMom: Warnings are for people who look for NC-17 and get squeamish about sex scenes.
Redmagelilith: No, they aren't.
SassyHush: No, warnings are for people who don't want to be flamed by their readers
FentonsNakedMom: well, i read your author's notes.
SassyHush: For doing something out of the ordinary.
FentonsNakedMom: and you mentioned this fic is built on theories from a few things, dreamcatcher included.
SassyHush: For example, I warn when I pair VashxMilly rather than VashxMeryl. . .
FentonsNakedMom: but you didn't mention what theory that was.
SassyHush: Because not everyone likes VashxMilly.
FentonsNakedMom: that people can be out of character? i guess that WOULD save yer arse.
Redmagelilith: Dreamwalker... the fic's name is Dreamwalker.
SassyHush: You could at least get that right EG
FentonsNakedMom: Redmagelilith (8:23:03 PM): Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* I have a fic called Dreamwalker.
FentonsNakedMom: Liliith, I will say this. You are trying to put forth arguments and I appreciate that. Sassy, I will say this. You strike me as the brainless oaf in the background, popping up to add a "Yeah!" to whatever Lillith says.
FentonsNakedMom: And give random threats.
FentonsNakedMom: s'alright.
SassyHush: Well, I'm honored. Brainless oaf.
Redmagelilith: No, she has personal interest in the story. She helped with the dialogue and the ideas.
SassyHush: Have you ever even READ my work?
FentonsNakedMom: I think I skimmed Dark Mirror.
SassyHush: Yeah, I co-write Letters and TMB. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: what is TMB?
SassyHush: So before you call me a brainless oaf, keep in mind that I happen to just be sitting in the background here. . .because I am busy
SassyHush: Lilith's Trigun humor fic, The Message Board
Redmagelilith: The Message Board is a fic that claims to be logs of the Gung Ho Guns Message Board
FentonsNakedMom: though not so busy that you'd review WxV fics in my name as a threat to me. I quiver.
FentonsNakedMom: That fic does give me chuckles.
SassyHush: Hehehee.
Redmagelilith: We aren't asking you to like Letters, just to stop insulting our views of the Trigun universe.
SassyHush: Yes, that is all we request. If you leave us alone, I will do no more reviews of WxV as you. . .
FentonsNakedMom: I thought you were busy.
SassyHush: I am, now
FentonsNakedMom: Lillith, I can say 2+2 = 5, and what would you do?
FentonsNakedMom: tell me i was wrong.
Redmagelilith: Sassy and I are in a RP right now.
FentonsNakedMom: should i call you a flamer and say you can't offend my interpretation of math?
Redmagelilith: Rene Descartes used that theory. How do I know 2+3 does not equal 5.
SassyHush: No, because that math is an objective fact
SassyHush: YOUR interpretations of Trigun are not objective fact
SassyHush: Thay are YOUR obsessed fangirl fantasies
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry, right now i'm obsessing over a threesome between myself, ben stiller, and owen wilson. Perhaps I should suggest you're obsessing about Vash = morphine addict
Redmagelilith: No, I am not.
SassyHush: *sigh*
Redmagelilith: You're just like Arafel, who suggested I was an addict.
SassyHush: Yes, she did the same to me. She suggested that I was a violent drug addict
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think you're a morphine addict.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think either of you are.
FentonsNakedMom: All the kids do ecstasy now, anyway.
Redmagelilith: Do you know anything about Morphine Sulfate?
SassyHush: Not me
FentonsNakedMom: no. I know Trigun.
SassyHush: I don't do drugs at all.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
FentonsNakedMom: they're not good, anyway. Alcohol is so much better.
SassyHush: No. You know your interpretation
Redmagelilith: Morphine Sulfate is a prescription drug. A highly addictive painkiller.
FentonsNakedMom: hey, man, if my dvds are my interpretation of Trigun, there'd be a lot more sex, and a second season where Knives and Meryl did it.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
SassyHush: Oh, so that means you like VashxMilly?
FentonsNakedMom: no. it would take a really good fic to convince me that that could happen.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash/Milly in a lot of fics seems to be the congeniality pairing in a lot of bad Knives/Meryl.
SassyHush: Well, Knives and Meryl being together does argue against Vash and Meryl
FentonsNakedMom: oh, i don't think they'd be in a relationship
SassyHush: You are contradicting yourself.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm talking hardcore up against the wall wake the neighbours humping, followed by a morning of regret, and Knives cackling at his Machiavellian scheming.
Redmagelilith: And Lina's Elusive Mayfly. Your opinion of that fanfic?
FentonsNakedMom: never read it
SassyHush: You said you did I think. . .
FentonsNakedMom: no, arafel did. my alleged sockpuppet.
Redmagelilith: Actually I think that was Arafel who said it was pretty good and failed to review.
FentonsNakedMom: she mentioned that in the review for junkieVashfic, yes.
Redmagelilith: Vash didn't sink low and decided to try drugs, Galaxia.
FentonsNakedMom: Okay. Here we go again. Perhaps the biggest problem with this is the time you've set the fic in.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this pre-series and show me how low he sank, and how he snapped himself out of it.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this post-series, and show me how far he fell to become this monster.
Redmagelilith: You don't get it.
SassyHush: No, you don't.
Redmagelilith: Vash lost a good portion of his left arm.
FentonsNakedMom: Don't set this between a couple of episodes and ask me to throw my disbelief out the window and accept that a character who I've never seen act like this has SUDDENLY decided to do so.
SassyHush: Over the series, Vash became more and more cynical-did you not see it?
FentonsNakedMom: Yes. Not to this point.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, he smiled and cheerily bought donuts after Wolfwood died, forever trying to hold up his facade.
SassyHush: It could easily be to this point. . .and he springs back between the episodes.
Redmagelilith: The fanfic takes place after "Out of Time".
SassyHush: I don't want to spoil our ending. . .but our fic isn't going to be Vash as an addict forever. He will recover.
Redmagelilith: Someone gave Vash morphine after the July Incident. He was one of the rare few that got hooked on the first dose.
FentonsNakedMom: So he becomes angry and abusive and uses a word I don't even like hearing Knives use in fic, and he bounces down to this point, and then back up? that's one helluva emotional trampoline you're trying to sell me.
FentonsNakedMom: of course, we could let it be that you'll accept this as personal canon, and I won't, and leave it at that.
Redmagelilith: Vash seemed a bit Bipolar in canon to both Sassy and me.
SassyHush: Yeah, ever notice how he was happy one second and suicidal the next?
FentonsNakedMom: never seen him suicidal.
SassyHush: You yourself admitted it in your review.
SassyHush: After he killed Legato.
Redmagelilith: Even his behavior can be a bit suicidal with all that Wild Turkey he drank.
FentonsNakedMom: the shattering of one's life philosophy does not make one bipolar. though i'll admit he thought he deserved to die at that point.
SassyHush: Before that, his reactions in Diablo. . .
FentonsNakedMom: which you still haven't explained how i took that out of context
SassyHush: And the way he reacted in Demon's Eye and Fifth Moon
Redmagelilith: He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: Yes, he was going to.
FentonsNakedMom: and he didn't.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry if to me that doesn't equal he would abuse those close to him
FentonsNakedMom: no, wait. i'm not sorry.
Redmagelilith: Meryl was kind of asking for it.
FentonsNakedMom: You just said the wrong thing to a feminist.
SassyHush: Oh, and you didn't flame Dark Mirror. . .
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
SassyHush: There, Vash goes bonkers and kills Meryl.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah, words failed.
FentonsNakedMom: so it was meryl's fault she got hit by the drug addict.
Redmagelilith: She kept pushing Vash's button even though Vash told her to leave him alone.
FentonsNakedMom: You two tell me to keep away, and yet you keep embroiling me in conversation and mentioning your other stories.
FentonsNakedMom: because she's worried about him?
FentonsNakedMom: stupid bitch, loving him and all.
FentonsNakedMom: he should've shot her, too.
Redmagelilith: God, Galaxia, can you ever just stop twisting my words.
FentonsNakedMom: only if you stop twisting mine
Redmagelilith: I haven't twisted your words, but you have twisted mine as well as Sassy's.
SassyHush: Yes, you have. That is why I have not said much.
SassyHush: (@)_(@)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
Redmagelilith: Meanwhile I have tried to be polite as possible.
SassyHush: As have I.
SassyHush: B-P
FentonsNakedMom: I admit I can't argue with Sassy's debate skills.
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
FentonsNakedMom: what is your goal here anyway?
FentonsNakedMom: did you expect me to apologize and roll over for my reviews?
FentonsNakedMom: tut tut, ladies, i don't do that. it says "Bitch" on my business cards, and there's a reason.
Redmagelilith: No, I'm just asking for you to respect the opinion of others.
SassyHush: Our goal is to ask you to not flame our work in the future
SassyHush: If you don't like it, don't read it.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
FentonsNakedMom: OH FUCK THAT ARGUMENT
Redmagelilith: You're killing the creativity in the Trigun section.
FentonsNakedMom: LOL
SassyHush: And you are officially an idiot EG
FentonsNakedMom: okay, admittedly, LOL is what i'm arguing against, but you're kidding me.
FentonsNakedMom: what about my original fic? Vash rapes Lina?
FentonsNakedMom: that's never been done before.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash has a dark side; he just blew up July.
Redmagelilith: Augusta.
FentonsNakedMom: shit, thank you.
SassyHush: Both July and Augusta
FentonsNakedMom: well, immediately before, Augusta.
SassyHush: WASH YOUR MOUSE!!!!!
Redmagelilith: Not possible.
FentonsNakedMom: why not? stop insulting my interpretation
FentonsNakedMom: u r a flamer!
SassyHush: No, you are a flamer.
Redmagelilith: And you can't seem to use caps or decent coloring.
Redmagelilith: Purple on purple?
FentonsNakedMom: I did, once upon a time. And then I gave up in AIM chat.
SassyHush: Yeah, opthalmologist's nightmare
FentonsNakedMom: I see it fine. Fix your monitor.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm halting the talking until you bring up fic again.
SassyHush: One question. Why do you give good reviews to PWP and not to fics with plots?
Redmagelilith: There is nothing wrong with my moniter. But I'm nearsighted. And I have an eye tracking problem.
FentonsNakedMom: What's wrong with PWP?
FentonsNakedMom: And I did review your fic with a plot.
FentonsNakedMom: You don't seem to like it much.
SassyHush: BECAUSE YOU FLAMED.
Redmagelilith: You already said you hated it. There was no need for you to keep on reading it.
FentonsNakedMom: I read it again because I heard I was mentioned in the author's notes. I'm also self-centered.
SassyHush: What is wrong with PWP is that it is pointless, worthless spam that can be written by any horny 13 year old or even by a generator program
SassyHush: It is NOT original fanfic.
FentonsNakedMom: so could "Vash is a junkie!"
FentonsNakedMom: and it could be a songfic!
FentonsNakedMom: so could shakespeare!
FentonsNakedMom: so can poetry!
FentonsNakedMom: so can yaoi!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Meryl!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Milly!
FentonsNakedMom: get my gist?
SassyHush: You're spamming
SassyHush: Hehe
Redmagelilith: Letter has a plot.
SassyHush: Yes, it does.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah.
FentonsNakedMom: so?
FentonsNakedMom: Vash rapes Lina fic has a plot.
Redmagelilith: Stop that.
FentonsNakedMom: why?
FentonsNakedMom: you're insulting my interpretation
SassyHush: It is something we actually worked on rather than just contrived based on existing plots in vengeance or anger or horniness.
SassyHush: (our plot)
FentonsNakedMom: I write nothing based on vengeance or anger or horniness.
Redmagelilith: You want to glofify rape of a minor.
FentonsNakedMom: I like the characters and get plot bunnies based on them
FentonsNakedMom: You want to glorify drug use.
SassyHush: No we do not
Redmagelilith: Vash is dying bit by bit.
SassyHush: Tell us. Where did we glorify drug use?
FentonsNakedMom: then how would I be glorifying rape?
SassyHush: Because your depiction of it would be done in a manner that would glorify it.
Redmagelilith: Two words: Child Pornography.
SassyHush: Indeed.
FentonsNakedMom: it's not Child Porn. It's about pain and suffering.
FentonsNakedMom: It wouldn't be porn, where I would actually depict the sex
SassyHush: Also, your fic would be based on LEM, an already existing work
SassyHush: Which makes it unoriginal.
FentonsNakedMom: that's funny, since i've never read it.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote child porn?!
SassyHush: NO!
FentonsNakedMom: Dude, Vash raped Lina in LEM? That's sick!
SassyHush: You are twisting our words.
Redmagelilith: No he didn't.
SassyHush: NO, that did not happen
FentonsNakedMom: but my fic isn't original, because it's based on yours.
FentonsNakedMom: which i haven't read
FentonsNakedMom: but i now assume is about Vash raping Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborting it himself and eating the fetus.
SassyHush: NO. No. No. Read it
SassyHush: It is not about that
FentonsNakedMom: wait, now you're asking me to read your fic?
Redmagelilith: *Sigh*
SassyHush: And I am sick of your twisting our words
FentonsNakedMom: I am sick of your simultaneous shooing/pimping.
FentonsNakedMom: pick one!
Redmagelilith: What are you talking about?
Redmagelilith: You haven't told us how Letters glorifies drug use.
FentonsNakedMom: going to all this trouble to tell me to stop "flaming" you and calling yourselves to my attention a month after I last reviewed, and then telling me to read your other things.
FentonsNakedMom: I never thought it did. It was a comeback to Vash rapes Lina fic glorifies rape.
FentonsNakedMom: which it wouldn't.
Redmagelilith: Because you did that on purpose.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote about drug abuse by accident?
Redmagelilith: No, that is not what I'm trying to say.
FentonsNakedMom: vague that up for me, then.
Redmagelilith: Use proper english and syntax, por favor.
FentonsNakedMom: I shall.
FentonsNakedMom: Clarify for me, arigatou.
Redmagelilith: There exist fifty billion intereptions of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is the right one?
SassyHush: Agreed.
FentonsNakedMom: now that is apples and oranges.
Redmagelilith: No, it's oranges and oranges.
FentonsNakedMom: no, i'll go with this.
SassyHush: No, it's oranges and oranges
FentonsNakedMom: Okay, but if someone's interpretation is that Shinji is a balanced individual who has no psychological problems and ignores that he ejaculated all over Asuka's unconscious form, THEY'RE WRONG.
Redmagelilith: Again, Galaxia, stop shoving your beliefs onto others.
SassyHush: Yes.
FentonsNakedMom: I didn't shove my beliefs on you. I would've forgotten you existed if you hadn't emailed me a month later, and then started this conversation this evening.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't shove my beliefs on others, but the two of you have made a special evening of convincing me I'm wrong.
FentonsNakedMom: but hey, if you like wankboy, whatever.
Redmagelilith: We get to the point where we think we've gotten somewhere and then you put your foot into your mouth.
SassyHush: Yes, exactly.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not putting my foot in my mouth. You two are, by admitting you're silly enough to think that you've convinced me that you're anything other than self-absorbed.
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (duck)
FentonsNakedMom: and those stunning debate skills, once again.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm the moron here?
Redmagelilith: No, just a writer. Sassy, if you don't mind. I'm going to leave this chat. You can stay if you want but there is no way we'll get anywhere with her.
SassyHush: Answer a moron as if you are a moron
SassyHush: I'm leaving too.
Redmagelilith has left the room.
FentonsNakedMom: YYAY!!!!
FentonsNakedMom: I WIN!
SassyHush: I've got some yaoi to review
FentonsNakedMom: A WINNER IS ME!
SassyHush has left the room.
About a week ago, I mentioned a bad fic I had reviewed, and the author caught up to me personally in email a month later.
Her minions harassed
arafel and jaina first. They were biding time until they grew enough clit to come see me. (Now, I say that because I'm conceited. It's probably because they're too stupid to come directly to me.)In my previous aforementioned post, I changed names to protect the innocent. I have no such qualms about the stupid.
You have just entered room "Redmagelilith Chat323."
Redmagelilith: Okay, finally it has worked. As I said both Sassy and I want to talk with you.
SassyHush: Yes, we do. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: hi!
SassyHush: I'll come out with it-what's with the flaming?
FentonsNakedMom: define flaming.
SassyHush: NO.
Redmagelilith: A flame is a review that makes a personal attack on the writer.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: There is a big difference between that and a negative review.
FentonsNakedMom: it's great that we agree so far.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* The problem is people can get two different viewpoints from watching the same series.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm rereading my review for the part where i said you were omg a stoopid ho
SassyHush: You cursed at us. . .stated that our viewpoints were OOC on all characters. . .
Redmagelilith: That's not what I meant. You insulted my intellegence and even Sassy agrees with me.
SassyHush: That I do-you insulted both of us.
FentonsNakedMom: you know what? i'm sorry. I offended your viewpoint, and I must apologize.
SassyHush: :-) Thank you.
Redmagelilith: Thank you.
FentonsNakedMom: You've shown me the light. Now I'm going to write a fic where Vash rapes Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborts her himself and eats the fetus.
FentonsNakedMom: Because I interpret that as his dark side.
SassyHush: *sigh
Redmagelilith: Galaxia, that is not what I meant.
SassyHush: No, it is not what we meant
FentonsNakedMom: you took humorous irony and based a serious fic about it.
SassyHush: If you keep up flaming our work and mocking us, your name is going to show up as an anonymous review on every new WolfwoodxVash fic. . .
FentonsNakedMom: that's sweet of you
FentonsNakedMom: and also very mature.
Redmagelilith: You want new blood on the Trigun section, yet flame the heck out of any original and fresh ideas.
FentonsNakedMom: you still haven't pointed out the flame in my review. copy and paste, baby.
SassyHush: And you also flame pairings because they are not VashxMeryl.
FentonsNakedMom: do i know? fuck, i didn't know that.
FentonsNakedMom: forgive my grammar error. *do I now?
Redmagelilith: Watch your mouth. Please, no cussing.
SassyHush: I mean, there's as much to argue AGAINST VxM as for it.
Redmagelilith: Plus in your first flame, you took a scene out of context.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection, your honor. Prosecution still has yet to prove the flames in aforementioned review.
SassyHush: "It's okay. This is in no way a proper or decent fanfic." Flame one.
FentonsNakedMom: alright.
Redmagelilith: "Geez, you know what? Maybe that's too harsh. But it's snazzy." Still flaming.
SassyHush: Then you asked Arafel to flame us.
FentonsNakedMom: I did no such thing.
SassyHush: There's more than one flame from her there
FentonsNakedMom: actually, there's a negative review. Objection number two.
SassyHush: No. It is a flame.
Redmagelilith: "Vash. Who wept in the streets rather than shoot a man who had wiped out the town. " You took the scene out of context.
SassyHush: Your review is a flame. It is beyond simple negativity on the story, it is a personal attack.
FentonsNakedMom: what was proper context?
SassyHush: That you did.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, this was a month ago, at least. Did it take the two of you that long to grow big enough clitorises to talk to me about this?
Redmagelilith: Diablo. Vash had his gun arm shoved right up against Monev's eye. He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
SassyHush: You're flaming right now EG
FentonsNakedMom: this is a conversation. that's just an insult.
SassyHush: Yes, which you seem to be good at.
FentonsNakedMom: danke!
SassyHush: Yes, you are the pro of insulting people.
Redmagelilith: Because I posted the fourth part of Letters and I want you to leave us alone.
Redmagelilith: That's why.
SassyHush: Yes. :-)
FentonsNakedMom: because you posted it to a public forum. where the public can see it. and is free to state their opinions of it. welcome to America and the internet.
FentonsNakedMom: You have a right to free speech. post as many fics as you'd like
FentonsNakedMom: I have a right to read them.
FentonsNakedMom: And a right to say, "Dude. Vash as a drug addict? Please."
Redmagelilith: Did you ever read Dreamwalker, Galaxia?
FentonsNakedMom: Now Sass, I wouldn't say I'm a pro. I am no Empress of the Zing Dynasty.
FentonsNakedMom: can't say I have. The Stephen King novel, or is this a fanfic?
Redmagelilith: Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
Redmagelilith: You just ignored the author's notes.
FentonsNakedMom: I often do.
Redmagelilith: Well that's a stupid thing to do.
FentonsNakedMom: how so? i don't read the author bio in real books, either.
Redmagelilith: Author's notes often contain warnings.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not afraid of anything.
FentonsNakedMom: Warnings are for people who look for NC-17 and get squeamish about sex scenes.
Redmagelilith: No, they aren't.
SassyHush: No, warnings are for people who don't want to be flamed by their readers
FentonsNakedMom: well, i read your author's notes.
SassyHush: For doing something out of the ordinary.
FentonsNakedMom: and you mentioned this fic is built on theories from a few things, dreamcatcher included.
SassyHush: For example, I warn when I pair VashxMilly rather than VashxMeryl. . .
FentonsNakedMom: but you didn't mention what theory that was.
SassyHush: Because not everyone likes VashxMilly.
FentonsNakedMom: that people can be out of character? i guess that WOULD save yer arse.
Redmagelilith: Dreamwalker... the fic's name is Dreamwalker.
SassyHush: You could at least get that right EG
FentonsNakedMom: Redmagelilith (8:23:03 PM): Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* I have a fic called Dreamwalker.
FentonsNakedMom: Liliith, I will say this. You are trying to put forth arguments and I appreciate that. Sassy, I will say this. You strike me as the brainless oaf in the background, popping up to add a "Yeah!" to whatever Lillith says.
FentonsNakedMom: And give random threats.
FentonsNakedMom: s'alright.
SassyHush: Well, I'm honored. Brainless oaf.
Redmagelilith: No, she has personal interest in the story. She helped with the dialogue and the ideas.
SassyHush: Have you ever even READ my work?
FentonsNakedMom: I think I skimmed Dark Mirror.
SassyHush: Yeah, I co-write Letters and TMB. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: what is TMB?
SassyHush: So before you call me a brainless oaf, keep in mind that I happen to just be sitting in the background here. . .because I am busy
SassyHush: Lilith's Trigun humor fic, The Message Board
Redmagelilith: The Message Board is a fic that claims to be logs of the Gung Ho Guns Message Board
FentonsNakedMom: though not so busy that you'd review WxV fics in my name as a threat to me. I quiver.
FentonsNakedMom: That fic does give me chuckles.
SassyHush: Hehehee.
Redmagelilith: We aren't asking you to like Letters, just to stop insulting our views of the Trigun universe.
SassyHush: Yes, that is all we request. If you leave us alone, I will do no more reviews of WxV as you. . .
FentonsNakedMom: I thought you were busy.
SassyHush: I am, now
FentonsNakedMom: Lillith, I can say 2+2 = 5, and what would you do?
FentonsNakedMom: tell me i was wrong.
Redmagelilith: Sassy and I are in a RP right now.
FentonsNakedMom: should i call you a flamer and say you can't offend my interpretation of math?
Redmagelilith: Rene Descartes used that theory. How do I know 2+3 does not equal 5.
SassyHush: No, because that math is an objective fact
SassyHush: YOUR interpretations of Trigun are not objective fact
SassyHush: Thay are YOUR obsessed fangirl fantasies
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry, right now i'm obsessing over a threesome between myself, ben stiller, and owen wilson. Perhaps I should suggest you're obsessing about Vash = morphine addict
Redmagelilith: No, I am not.
SassyHush: *sigh*
Redmagelilith: You're just like Arafel, who suggested I was an addict.
SassyHush: Yes, she did the same to me. She suggested that I was a violent drug addict
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think you're a morphine addict.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think either of you are.
FentonsNakedMom: All the kids do ecstasy now, anyway.
Redmagelilith: Do you know anything about Morphine Sulfate?
SassyHush: Not me
FentonsNakedMom: no. I know Trigun.
SassyHush: I don't do drugs at all.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
FentonsNakedMom: they're not good, anyway. Alcohol is so much better.
SassyHush: No. You know your interpretation
Redmagelilith: Morphine Sulfate is a prescription drug. A highly addictive painkiller.
FentonsNakedMom: hey, man, if my dvds are my interpretation of Trigun, there'd be a lot more sex, and a second season where Knives and Meryl did it.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
SassyHush: Oh, so that means you like VashxMilly?
FentonsNakedMom: no. it would take a really good fic to convince me that that could happen.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash/Milly in a lot of fics seems to be the congeniality pairing in a lot of bad Knives/Meryl.
SassyHush: Well, Knives and Meryl being together does argue against Vash and Meryl
FentonsNakedMom: oh, i don't think they'd be in a relationship
SassyHush: You are contradicting yourself.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm talking hardcore up against the wall wake the neighbours humping, followed by a morning of regret, and Knives cackling at his Machiavellian scheming.
Redmagelilith: And Lina's Elusive Mayfly. Your opinion of that fanfic?
FentonsNakedMom: never read it
SassyHush: You said you did I think. . .
FentonsNakedMom: no, arafel did. my alleged sockpuppet.
Redmagelilith: Actually I think that was Arafel who said it was pretty good and failed to review.
FentonsNakedMom: she mentioned that in the review for junkieVashfic, yes.
Redmagelilith: Vash didn't sink low and decided to try drugs, Galaxia.
FentonsNakedMom: Okay. Here we go again. Perhaps the biggest problem with this is the time you've set the fic in.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this pre-series and show me how low he sank, and how he snapped himself out of it.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this post-series, and show me how far he fell to become this monster.
Redmagelilith: You don't get it.
SassyHush: No, you don't.
Redmagelilith: Vash lost a good portion of his left arm.
FentonsNakedMom: Don't set this between a couple of episodes and ask me to throw my disbelief out the window and accept that a character who I've never seen act like this has SUDDENLY decided to do so.
SassyHush: Over the series, Vash became more and more cynical-did you not see it?
FentonsNakedMom: Yes. Not to this point.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, he smiled and cheerily bought donuts after Wolfwood died, forever trying to hold up his facade.
SassyHush: It could easily be to this point. . .and he springs back between the episodes.
Redmagelilith: The fanfic takes place after "Out of Time".
SassyHush: I don't want to spoil our ending. . .but our fic isn't going to be Vash as an addict forever. He will recover.
Redmagelilith: Someone gave Vash morphine after the July Incident. He was one of the rare few that got hooked on the first dose.
FentonsNakedMom: So he becomes angry and abusive and uses a word I don't even like hearing Knives use in fic, and he bounces down to this point, and then back up? that's one helluva emotional trampoline you're trying to sell me.
FentonsNakedMom: of course, we could let it be that you'll accept this as personal canon, and I won't, and leave it at that.
Redmagelilith: Vash seemed a bit Bipolar in canon to both Sassy and me.
SassyHush: Yeah, ever notice how he was happy one second and suicidal the next?
FentonsNakedMom: never seen him suicidal.
SassyHush: You yourself admitted it in your review.
SassyHush: After he killed Legato.
Redmagelilith: Even his behavior can be a bit suicidal with all that Wild Turkey he drank.
FentonsNakedMom: the shattering of one's life philosophy does not make one bipolar. though i'll admit he thought he deserved to die at that point.
SassyHush: Before that, his reactions in Diablo. . .
FentonsNakedMom: which you still haven't explained how i took that out of context
SassyHush: And the way he reacted in Demon's Eye and Fifth Moon
Redmagelilith: He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: Yes, he was going to.
FentonsNakedMom: and he didn't.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry if to me that doesn't equal he would abuse those close to him
FentonsNakedMom: no, wait. i'm not sorry.
Redmagelilith: Meryl was kind of asking for it.
FentonsNakedMom: You just said the wrong thing to a feminist.
SassyHush: Oh, and you didn't flame Dark Mirror. . .
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
SassyHush: There, Vash goes bonkers and kills Meryl.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah, words failed.
FentonsNakedMom: so it was meryl's fault she got hit by the drug addict.
Redmagelilith: She kept pushing Vash's button even though Vash told her to leave him alone.
FentonsNakedMom: You two tell me to keep away, and yet you keep embroiling me in conversation and mentioning your other stories.
FentonsNakedMom: because she's worried about him?
FentonsNakedMom: stupid bitch, loving him and all.
FentonsNakedMom: he should've shot her, too.
Redmagelilith: God, Galaxia, can you ever just stop twisting my words.
FentonsNakedMom: only if you stop twisting mine
Redmagelilith: I haven't twisted your words, but you have twisted mine as well as Sassy's.
SassyHush: Yes, you have. That is why I have not said much.
SassyHush: (@)_(@)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
Redmagelilith: Meanwhile I have tried to be polite as possible.
SassyHush: As have I.
SassyHush: B-P
FentonsNakedMom: I admit I can't argue with Sassy's debate skills.
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
FentonsNakedMom: what is your goal here anyway?
FentonsNakedMom: did you expect me to apologize and roll over for my reviews?
FentonsNakedMom: tut tut, ladies, i don't do that. it says "Bitch" on my business cards, and there's a reason.
Redmagelilith: No, I'm just asking for you to respect the opinion of others.
SassyHush: Our goal is to ask you to not flame our work in the future
SassyHush: If you don't like it, don't read it.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
FentonsNakedMom: OH FUCK THAT ARGUMENT
Redmagelilith: You're killing the creativity in the Trigun section.
FentonsNakedMom: LOL
SassyHush: And you are officially an idiot EG
FentonsNakedMom: okay, admittedly, LOL is what i'm arguing against, but you're kidding me.
FentonsNakedMom: what about my original fic? Vash rapes Lina?
FentonsNakedMom: that's never been done before.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash has a dark side; he just blew up July.
Redmagelilith: Augusta.
FentonsNakedMom: shit, thank you.
SassyHush: Both July and Augusta
FentonsNakedMom: well, immediately before, Augusta.
SassyHush: WASH YOUR MOUSE!!!!!
Redmagelilith: Not possible.
FentonsNakedMom: why not? stop insulting my interpretation
FentonsNakedMom: u r a flamer!
SassyHush: No, you are a flamer.
Redmagelilith: And you can't seem to use caps or decent coloring.
Redmagelilith: Purple on purple?
FentonsNakedMom: I did, once upon a time. And then I gave up in AIM chat.
SassyHush: Yeah, opthalmologist's nightmare
FentonsNakedMom: I see it fine. Fix your monitor.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm halting the talking until you bring up fic again.
SassyHush: One question. Why do you give good reviews to PWP and not to fics with plots?
Redmagelilith: There is nothing wrong with my moniter. But I'm nearsighted. And I have an eye tracking problem.
FentonsNakedMom: What's wrong with PWP?
FentonsNakedMom: And I did review your fic with a plot.
FentonsNakedMom: You don't seem to like it much.
SassyHush: BECAUSE YOU FLAMED.
Redmagelilith: You already said you hated it. There was no need for you to keep on reading it.
FentonsNakedMom: I read it again because I heard I was mentioned in the author's notes. I'm also self-centered.
SassyHush: What is wrong with PWP is that it is pointless, worthless spam that can be written by any horny 13 year old or even by a generator program
SassyHush: It is NOT original fanfic.
FentonsNakedMom: so could "Vash is a junkie!"
FentonsNakedMom: and it could be a songfic!
FentonsNakedMom: so could shakespeare!
FentonsNakedMom: so can poetry!
FentonsNakedMom: so can yaoi!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Meryl!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Milly!
FentonsNakedMom: get my gist?
SassyHush: You're spamming
SassyHush: Hehe
Redmagelilith: Letter has a plot.
SassyHush: Yes, it does.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah.
FentonsNakedMom: so?
FentonsNakedMom: Vash rapes Lina fic has a plot.
Redmagelilith: Stop that.
FentonsNakedMom: why?
FentonsNakedMom: you're insulting my interpretation
SassyHush: It is something we actually worked on rather than just contrived based on existing plots in vengeance or anger or horniness.
SassyHush: (our plot)
FentonsNakedMom: I write nothing based on vengeance or anger or horniness.
Redmagelilith: You want to glofify rape of a minor.
FentonsNakedMom: I like the characters and get plot bunnies based on them
FentonsNakedMom: You want to glorify drug use.
SassyHush: No we do not
Redmagelilith: Vash is dying bit by bit.
SassyHush: Tell us. Where did we glorify drug use?
FentonsNakedMom: then how would I be glorifying rape?
SassyHush: Because your depiction of it would be done in a manner that would glorify it.
Redmagelilith: Two words: Child Pornography.
SassyHush: Indeed.
FentonsNakedMom: it's not Child Porn. It's about pain and suffering.
FentonsNakedMom: It wouldn't be porn, where I would actually depict the sex
SassyHush: Also, your fic would be based on LEM, an already existing work
SassyHush: Which makes it unoriginal.
FentonsNakedMom: that's funny, since i've never read it.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote child porn?!
SassyHush: NO!
FentonsNakedMom: Dude, Vash raped Lina in LEM? That's sick!
SassyHush: You are twisting our words.
Redmagelilith: No he didn't.
SassyHush: NO, that did not happen
FentonsNakedMom: but my fic isn't original, because it's based on yours.
FentonsNakedMom: which i haven't read
FentonsNakedMom: but i now assume is about Vash raping Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborting it himself and eating the fetus.
SassyHush: NO. No. No. Read it
SassyHush: It is not about that
FentonsNakedMom: wait, now you're asking me to read your fic?
Redmagelilith: *Sigh*
SassyHush: And I am sick of your twisting our words
FentonsNakedMom: I am sick of your simultaneous shooing/pimping.
FentonsNakedMom: pick one!
Redmagelilith: What are you talking about?
Redmagelilith: You haven't told us how Letters glorifies drug use.
FentonsNakedMom: going to all this trouble to tell me to stop "flaming" you and calling yourselves to my attention a month after I last reviewed, and then telling me to read your other things.
FentonsNakedMom: I never thought it did. It was a comeback to Vash rapes Lina fic glorifies rape.
FentonsNakedMom: which it wouldn't.
Redmagelilith: Because you did that on purpose.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote about drug abuse by accident?
Redmagelilith: No, that is not what I'm trying to say.
FentonsNakedMom: vague that up for me, then.
Redmagelilith: Use proper english and syntax, por favor.
FentonsNakedMom: I shall.
FentonsNakedMom: Clarify for me, arigatou.
Redmagelilith: There exist fifty billion intereptions of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is the right one?
SassyHush: Agreed.
FentonsNakedMom: now that is apples and oranges.
Redmagelilith: No, it's oranges and oranges.
FentonsNakedMom: no, i'll go with this.
SassyHush: No, it's oranges and oranges
FentonsNakedMom: Okay, but if someone's interpretation is that Shinji is a balanced individual who has no psychological problems and ignores that he ejaculated all over Asuka's unconscious form, THEY'RE WRONG.
Redmagelilith: Again, Galaxia, stop shoving your beliefs onto others.
SassyHush: Yes.
FentonsNakedMom: I didn't shove my beliefs on you. I would've forgotten you existed if you hadn't emailed me a month later, and then started this conversation this evening.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't shove my beliefs on others, but the two of you have made a special evening of convincing me I'm wrong.
FentonsNakedMom: but hey, if you like wankboy, whatever.
Redmagelilith: We get to the point where we think we've gotten somewhere and then you put your foot into your mouth.
SassyHush: Yes, exactly.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not putting my foot in my mouth. You two are, by admitting you're silly enough to think that you've convinced me that you're anything other than self-absorbed.
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (duck)
FentonsNakedMom: and those stunning debate skills, once again.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm the moron here?
Redmagelilith: No, just a writer. Sassy, if you don't mind. I'm going to leave this chat. You can stay if you want but there is no way we'll get anywhere with her.
SassyHush: Answer a moron as if you are a moron
SassyHush: I'm leaving too.
Redmagelilith has left the room.
FentonsNakedMom: YYAY!!!!
FentonsNakedMom: I WIN!
SassyHush: I've got some yaoi to review
FentonsNakedMom: A WINNER IS ME!
SassyHush has left the room.
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Date: 2004-04-05 08:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-05 08:41 pm (UTC)>^..^
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Date: 2004-04-06 01:14 am (UTC)PS You're also fat."
Problem solved.
I'm impressed that you actually had the patience to explain (with EXAMPLES) why they're wrong. Wow. Just...wow. I didn't even have the patience to make it all the way through this entry before I started hypothetical flaming. Fuck!
And...uh...shouldn't Vash not need painkillers, period?
I'm writing a story where Hamlet is a crack addict, because it doesn't explicitly say he's not anywhere in the story. ...fuck!
You have patience. Or something. Fuck!
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Date: 2004-04-06 04:35 pm (UTC)I think I like your response better.
>^..^
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Date: 2004-04-06 08:44 pm (UTC)seriously.
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Date: 2004-04-06 10:13 pm (UTC)What's scary? She's 54 years old. All I could think was, "You want verbal abuse? I'll give it you in Spades if you like."
ANd woooo! Go with the Hamlet as a crack addict! The guy's already supposadly mad, anyway. ^_~
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Date: 2004-04-06 10:10 pm (UTC)And threatening to review yaoi fics in your name. *sigh* How . . . juvanile. Yet another reason I no longer review fics unless I happen to like them. And that's getting rarer and rarer. And I can no longer type properly. O_o
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Date: 2004-04-08 11:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-20 07:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-10-21 10:39 am (UTC)>^..^
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Date: 2004-11-19 04:00 am (UTC)Redmagelilith: Meryl was kind of asking for it.
FentonsNakedMom: You just said the wrong thing to a feminist.
SassyHush: Oh, and you didn't flame Dark Mirror. . .
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
SassyHush: There, Vash goes bonkers and kills Meryl.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah, words failed.
FentonsNakedMom: so it was meryl's fault she got hit by the drug addict.
Redmagelilith: She kept pushing Vash's button even though Vash told her to leave him alone.
But then I got down to this:
SassyHush: Also, your fic would be based on LEM, an already existing work
SassyHush: Which makes it unoriginal.
FentonsNakedMom: that's funny, since i've never read it.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote child porn?!
SassyHush: NO!
FentonsNakedMom: Dude, Vash raped Lina in LEM? That's sick!
SassyHush: You are twisting our words.
Redmagelilith: No he didn't.
SassyHush: NO, that did not happen
FentonsNakedMom: but my fic isn't original, because it's based on yours.
FentonsNakedMom: which i haven't read
FentonsNakedMom: but i now assume is about Vash raping Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborting it himself and eating the fetus.
SassyHush: NO. No. No. Read it
SassyHush: It is not about that
And I started giggling because that's just too stupid not to laugh at. How many times do they set up and walk into their own verbal traps in this discussion? Too many times.