"The logic! It does nothing!"
Apr. 5th, 2004 09:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
40cakesI can't decide which stupid icon to use for this. Really. But since I just used the flame war icon previously, I'll go for "Everyone's retarded!"
About a week ago, I mentioned a bad fic I had reviewed, and the author caught up to me personally in email a month later.
Her minions harassed![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
arafel and jaina first. They were biding time until they grew enough clit to come see me. (Now, I say that because I'm conceited. It's probably because they're too stupid to come directly to me.)
In my previous aforementioned post, I changed names to protect the innocent. I have no such qualms about the stupid.
You have just entered room "Redmagelilith Chat323."
Redmagelilith: Okay, finally it has worked. As I said both Sassy and I want to talk with you.
SassyHush: Yes, we do. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: hi!
SassyHush: I'll come out with it-what's with the flaming?
FentonsNakedMom: define flaming.
SassyHush: NO.
Redmagelilith: A flame is a review that makes a personal attack on the writer.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: There is a big difference between that and a negative review.
FentonsNakedMom: it's great that we agree so far.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* The problem is people can get two different viewpoints from watching the same series.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm rereading my review for the part where i said you were omg a stoopid ho
SassyHush: You cursed at us. . .stated that our viewpoints were OOC on all characters. . .
Redmagelilith: That's not what I meant. You insulted my intellegence and even Sassy agrees with me.
SassyHush: That I do-you insulted both of us.
FentonsNakedMom: you know what? i'm sorry. I offended your viewpoint, and I must apologize.
SassyHush: :-) Thank you.
Redmagelilith: Thank you.
FentonsNakedMom: You've shown me the light. Now I'm going to write a fic where Vash rapes Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborts her himself and eats the fetus.
FentonsNakedMom: Because I interpret that as his dark side.
SassyHush: *sigh
Redmagelilith: Galaxia, that is not what I meant.
SassyHush: No, it is not what we meant
FentonsNakedMom: you took humorous irony and based a serious fic about it.
SassyHush: If you keep up flaming our work and mocking us, your name is going to show up as an anonymous review on every new WolfwoodxVash fic. . .
FentonsNakedMom: that's sweet of you
FentonsNakedMom: and also very mature.
Redmagelilith: You want new blood on the Trigun section, yet flame the heck out of any original and fresh ideas.
FentonsNakedMom: you still haven't pointed out the flame in my review. copy and paste, baby.
SassyHush: And you also flame pairings because they are not VashxMeryl.
FentonsNakedMom: do i know? fuck, i didn't know that.
FentonsNakedMom: forgive my grammar error. *do I now?
Redmagelilith: Watch your mouth. Please, no cussing.
SassyHush: I mean, there's as much to argue AGAINST VxM as for it.
Redmagelilith: Plus in your first flame, you took a scene out of context.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection, your honor. Prosecution still has yet to prove the flames in aforementioned review.
SassyHush: "It's okay. This is in no way a proper or decent fanfic." Flame one.
FentonsNakedMom: alright.
Redmagelilith: "Geez, you know what? Maybe that's too harsh. But it's snazzy." Still flaming.
SassyHush: Then you asked Arafel to flame us.
FentonsNakedMom: I did no such thing.
SassyHush: There's more than one flame from her there
FentonsNakedMom: actually, there's a negative review. Objection number two.
SassyHush: No. It is a flame.
Redmagelilith: "Vash. Who wept in the streets rather than shoot a man who had wiped out the town. " You took the scene out of context.
SassyHush: Your review is a flame. It is beyond simple negativity on the story, it is a personal attack.
FentonsNakedMom: what was proper context?
SassyHush: That you did.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, this was a month ago, at least. Did it take the two of you that long to grow big enough clitorises to talk to me about this?
Redmagelilith: Diablo. Vash had his gun arm shoved right up against Monev's eye. He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
SassyHush: You're flaming right now EG
FentonsNakedMom: this is a conversation. that's just an insult.
SassyHush: Yes, which you seem to be good at.
FentonsNakedMom: danke!
SassyHush: Yes, you are the pro of insulting people.
Redmagelilith: Because I posted the fourth part of Letters and I want you to leave us alone.
Redmagelilith: That's why.
SassyHush: Yes. :-)
FentonsNakedMom: because you posted it to a public forum. where the public can see it. and is free to state their opinions of it. welcome to America and the internet.
FentonsNakedMom: You have a right to free speech. post as many fics as you'd like
FentonsNakedMom: I have a right to read them.
FentonsNakedMom: And a right to say, "Dude. Vash as a drug addict? Please."
Redmagelilith: Did you ever read Dreamwalker, Galaxia?
FentonsNakedMom: Now Sass, I wouldn't say I'm a pro. I am no Empress of the Zing Dynasty.
FentonsNakedMom: can't say I have. The Stephen King novel, or is this a fanfic?
Redmagelilith: Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
Redmagelilith: You just ignored the author's notes.
FentonsNakedMom: I often do.
Redmagelilith: Well that's a stupid thing to do.
FentonsNakedMom: how so? i don't read the author bio in real books, either.
Redmagelilith: Author's notes often contain warnings.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not afraid of anything.
FentonsNakedMom: Warnings are for people who look for NC-17 and get squeamish about sex scenes.
Redmagelilith: No, they aren't.
SassyHush: No, warnings are for people who don't want to be flamed by their readers
FentonsNakedMom: well, i read your author's notes.
SassyHush: For doing something out of the ordinary.
FentonsNakedMom: and you mentioned this fic is built on theories from a few things, dreamcatcher included.
SassyHush: For example, I warn when I pair VashxMilly rather than VashxMeryl. . .
FentonsNakedMom: but you didn't mention what theory that was.
SassyHush: Because not everyone likes VashxMilly.
FentonsNakedMom: that people can be out of character? i guess that WOULD save yer arse.
Redmagelilith: Dreamwalker... the fic's name is Dreamwalker.
SassyHush: You could at least get that right EG
FentonsNakedMom: Redmagelilith (8:23:03 PM): Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* I have a fic called Dreamwalker.
FentonsNakedMom: Liliith, I will say this. You are trying to put forth arguments and I appreciate that. Sassy, I will say this. You strike me as the brainless oaf in the background, popping up to add a "Yeah!" to whatever Lillith says.
FentonsNakedMom: And give random threats.
FentonsNakedMom: s'alright.
SassyHush: Well, I'm honored. Brainless oaf.
Redmagelilith: No, she has personal interest in the story. She helped with the dialogue and the ideas.
SassyHush: Have you ever even READ my work?
FentonsNakedMom: I think I skimmed Dark Mirror.
SassyHush: Yeah, I co-write Letters and TMB. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: what is TMB?
SassyHush: So before you call me a brainless oaf, keep in mind that I happen to just be sitting in the background here. . .because I am busy
SassyHush: Lilith's Trigun humor fic, The Message Board
Redmagelilith: The Message Board is a fic that claims to be logs of the Gung Ho Guns Message Board
FentonsNakedMom: though not so busy that you'd review WxV fics in my name as a threat to me. I quiver.
FentonsNakedMom: That fic does give me chuckles.
SassyHush: Hehehee.
Redmagelilith: We aren't asking you to like Letters, just to stop insulting our views of the Trigun universe.
SassyHush: Yes, that is all we request. If you leave us alone, I will do no more reviews of WxV as you. . .
FentonsNakedMom: I thought you were busy.
SassyHush: I am, now
FentonsNakedMom: Lillith, I can say 2+2 = 5, and what would you do?
FentonsNakedMom: tell me i was wrong.
Redmagelilith: Sassy and I are in a RP right now.
FentonsNakedMom: should i call you a flamer and say you can't offend my interpretation of math?
Redmagelilith: Rene Descartes used that theory. How do I know 2+3 does not equal 5.
SassyHush: No, because that math is an objective fact
SassyHush: YOUR interpretations of Trigun are not objective fact
SassyHush: Thay are YOUR obsessed fangirl fantasies
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry, right now i'm obsessing over a threesome between myself, ben stiller, and owen wilson. Perhaps I should suggest you're obsessing about Vash = morphine addict
Redmagelilith: No, I am not.
SassyHush: *sigh*
Redmagelilith: You're just like Arafel, who suggested I was an addict.
SassyHush: Yes, she did the same to me. She suggested that I was a violent drug addict
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think you're a morphine addict.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think either of you are.
FentonsNakedMom: All the kids do ecstasy now, anyway.
Redmagelilith: Do you know anything about Morphine Sulfate?
SassyHush: Not me
FentonsNakedMom: no. I know Trigun.
SassyHush: I don't do drugs at all.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
FentonsNakedMom: they're not good, anyway. Alcohol is so much better.
SassyHush: No. You know your interpretation
Redmagelilith: Morphine Sulfate is a prescription drug. A highly addictive painkiller.
FentonsNakedMom: hey, man, if my dvds are my interpretation of Trigun, there'd be a lot more sex, and a second season where Knives and Meryl did it.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
SassyHush: Oh, so that means you like VashxMilly?
FentonsNakedMom: no. it would take a really good fic to convince me that that could happen.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash/Milly in a lot of fics seems to be the congeniality pairing in a lot of bad Knives/Meryl.
SassyHush: Well, Knives and Meryl being together does argue against Vash and Meryl
FentonsNakedMom: oh, i don't think they'd be in a relationship
SassyHush: You are contradicting yourself.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm talking hardcore up against the wall wake the neighbours humping, followed by a morning of regret, and Knives cackling at his Machiavellian scheming.
Redmagelilith: And Lina's Elusive Mayfly. Your opinion of that fanfic?
FentonsNakedMom: never read it
SassyHush: You said you did I think. . .
FentonsNakedMom: no, arafel did. my alleged sockpuppet.
Redmagelilith: Actually I think that was Arafel who said it was pretty good and failed to review.
FentonsNakedMom: she mentioned that in the review for junkieVashfic, yes.
Redmagelilith: Vash didn't sink low and decided to try drugs, Galaxia.
FentonsNakedMom: Okay. Here we go again. Perhaps the biggest problem with this is the time you've set the fic in.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this pre-series and show me how low he sank, and how he snapped himself out of it.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this post-series, and show me how far he fell to become this monster.
Redmagelilith: You don't get it.
SassyHush: No, you don't.
Redmagelilith: Vash lost a good portion of his left arm.
FentonsNakedMom: Don't set this between a couple of episodes and ask me to throw my disbelief out the window and accept that a character who I've never seen act like this has SUDDENLY decided to do so.
SassyHush: Over the series, Vash became more and more cynical-did you not see it?
FentonsNakedMom: Yes. Not to this point.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, he smiled and cheerily bought donuts after Wolfwood died, forever trying to hold up his facade.
SassyHush: It could easily be to this point. . .and he springs back between the episodes.
Redmagelilith: The fanfic takes place after "Out of Time".
SassyHush: I don't want to spoil our ending. . .but our fic isn't going to be Vash as an addict forever. He will recover.
Redmagelilith: Someone gave Vash morphine after the July Incident. He was one of the rare few that got hooked on the first dose.
FentonsNakedMom: So he becomes angry and abusive and uses a word I don't even like hearing Knives use in fic, and he bounces down to this point, and then back up? that's one helluva emotional trampoline you're trying to sell me.
FentonsNakedMom: of course, we could let it be that you'll accept this as personal canon, and I won't, and leave it at that.
Redmagelilith: Vash seemed a bit Bipolar in canon to both Sassy and me.
SassyHush: Yeah, ever notice how he was happy one second and suicidal the next?
FentonsNakedMom: never seen him suicidal.
SassyHush: You yourself admitted it in your review.
SassyHush: After he killed Legato.
Redmagelilith: Even his behavior can be a bit suicidal with all that Wild Turkey he drank.
FentonsNakedMom: the shattering of one's life philosophy does not make one bipolar. though i'll admit he thought he deserved to die at that point.
SassyHush: Before that, his reactions in Diablo. . .
FentonsNakedMom: which you still haven't explained how i took that out of context
SassyHush: And the way he reacted in Demon's Eye and Fifth Moon
Redmagelilith: He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: Yes, he was going to.
FentonsNakedMom: and he didn't.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry if to me that doesn't equal he would abuse those close to him
FentonsNakedMom: no, wait. i'm not sorry.
Redmagelilith: Meryl was kind of asking for it.
FentonsNakedMom: You just said the wrong thing to a feminist.
SassyHush: Oh, and you didn't flame Dark Mirror. . .
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
SassyHush: There, Vash goes bonkers and kills Meryl.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah, words failed.
FentonsNakedMom: so it was meryl's fault she got hit by the drug addict.
Redmagelilith: She kept pushing Vash's button even though Vash told her to leave him alone.
FentonsNakedMom: You two tell me to keep away, and yet you keep embroiling me in conversation and mentioning your other stories.
FentonsNakedMom: because she's worried about him?
FentonsNakedMom: stupid bitch, loving him and all.
FentonsNakedMom: he should've shot her, too.
Redmagelilith: God, Galaxia, can you ever just stop twisting my words.
FentonsNakedMom: only if you stop twisting mine
Redmagelilith: I haven't twisted your words, but you have twisted mine as well as Sassy's.
SassyHush: Yes, you have. That is why I have not said much.
SassyHush: (@)_(@)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
Redmagelilith: Meanwhile I have tried to be polite as possible.
SassyHush: As have I.
SassyHush: B-P
FentonsNakedMom: I admit I can't argue with Sassy's debate skills.
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
FentonsNakedMom: what is your goal here anyway?
FentonsNakedMom: did you expect me to apologize and roll over for my reviews?
FentonsNakedMom: tut tut, ladies, i don't do that. it says "Bitch" on my business cards, and there's a reason.
Redmagelilith: No, I'm just asking for you to respect the opinion of others.
SassyHush: Our goal is to ask you to not flame our work in the future
SassyHush: If you don't like it, don't read it.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
FentonsNakedMom: OH FUCK THAT ARGUMENT
Redmagelilith: You're killing the creativity in the Trigun section.
FentonsNakedMom: LOL
SassyHush: And you are officially an idiot EG
FentonsNakedMom: okay, admittedly, LOL is what i'm arguing against, but you're kidding me.
FentonsNakedMom: what about my original fic? Vash rapes Lina?
FentonsNakedMom: that's never been done before.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash has a dark side; he just blew up July.
Redmagelilith: Augusta.
FentonsNakedMom: shit, thank you.
SassyHush: Both July and Augusta
FentonsNakedMom: well, immediately before, Augusta.
SassyHush: WASH YOUR MOUSE!!!!!
Redmagelilith: Not possible.
FentonsNakedMom: why not? stop insulting my interpretation
FentonsNakedMom: u r a flamer!
SassyHush: No, you are a flamer.
Redmagelilith: And you can't seem to use caps or decent coloring.
Redmagelilith: Purple on purple?
FentonsNakedMom: I did, once upon a time. And then I gave up in AIM chat.
SassyHush: Yeah, opthalmologist's nightmare
FentonsNakedMom: I see it fine. Fix your monitor.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm halting the talking until you bring up fic again.
SassyHush: One question. Why do you give good reviews to PWP and not to fics with plots?
Redmagelilith: There is nothing wrong with my moniter. But I'm nearsighted. And I have an eye tracking problem.
FentonsNakedMom: What's wrong with PWP?
FentonsNakedMom: And I did review your fic with a plot.
FentonsNakedMom: You don't seem to like it much.
SassyHush: BECAUSE YOU FLAMED.
Redmagelilith: You already said you hated it. There was no need for you to keep on reading it.
FentonsNakedMom: I read it again because I heard I was mentioned in the author's notes. I'm also self-centered.
SassyHush: What is wrong with PWP is that it is pointless, worthless spam that can be written by any horny 13 year old or even by a generator program
SassyHush: It is NOT original fanfic.
FentonsNakedMom: so could "Vash is a junkie!"
FentonsNakedMom: and it could be a songfic!
FentonsNakedMom: so could shakespeare!
FentonsNakedMom: so can poetry!
FentonsNakedMom: so can yaoi!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Meryl!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Milly!
FentonsNakedMom: get my gist?
SassyHush: You're spamming
SassyHush: Hehe
Redmagelilith: Letter has a plot.
SassyHush: Yes, it does.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah.
FentonsNakedMom: so?
FentonsNakedMom: Vash rapes Lina fic has a plot.
Redmagelilith: Stop that.
FentonsNakedMom: why?
FentonsNakedMom: you're insulting my interpretation
SassyHush: It is something we actually worked on rather than just contrived based on existing plots in vengeance or anger or horniness.
SassyHush: (our plot)
FentonsNakedMom: I write nothing based on vengeance or anger or horniness.
Redmagelilith: You want to glofify rape of a minor.
FentonsNakedMom: I like the characters and get plot bunnies based on them
FentonsNakedMom: You want to glorify drug use.
SassyHush: No we do not
Redmagelilith: Vash is dying bit by bit.
SassyHush: Tell us. Where did we glorify drug use?
FentonsNakedMom: then how would I be glorifying rape?
SassyHush: Because your depiction of it would be done in a manner that would glorify it.
Redmagelilith: Two words: Child Pornography.
SassyHush: Indeed.
FentonsNakedMom: it's not Child Porn. It's about pain and suffering.
FentonsNakedMom: It wouldn't be porn, where I would actually depict the sex
SassyHush: Also, your fic would be based on LEM, an already existing work
SassyHush: Which makes it unoriginal.
FentonsNakedMom: that's funny, since i've never read it.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote child porn?!
SassyHush: NO!
FentonsNakedMom: Dude, Vash raped Lina in LEM? That's sick!
SassyHush: You are twisting our words.
Redmagelilith: No he didn't.
SassyHush: NO, that did not happen
FentonsNakedMom: but my fic isn't original, because it's based on yours.
FentonsNakedMom: which i haven't read
FentonsNakedMom: but i now assume is about Vash raping Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborting it himself and eating the fetus.
SassyHush: NO. No. No. Read it
SassyHush: It is not about that
FentonsNakedMom: wait, now you're asking me to read your fic?
Redmagelilith: *Sigh*
SassyHush: And I am sick of your twisting our words
FentonsNakedMom: I am sick of your simultaneous shooing/pimping.
FentonsNakedMom: pick one!
Redmagelilith: What are you talking about?
Redmagelilith: You haven't told us how Letters glorifies drug use.
FentonsNakedMom: going to all this trouble to tell me to stop "flaming" you and calling yourselves to my attention a month after I last reviewed, and then telling me to read your other things.
FentonsNakedMom: I never thought it did. It was a comeback to Vash rapes Lina fic glorifies rape.
FentonsNakedMom: which it wouldn't.
Redmagelilith: Because you did that on purpose.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote about drug abuse by accident?
Redmagelilith: No, that is not what I'm trying to say.
FentonsNakedMom: vague that up for me, then.
Redmagelilith: Use proper english and syntax, por favor.
FentonsNakedMom: I shall.
FentonsNakedMom: Clarify for me, arigatou.
Redmagelilith: There exist fifty billion intereptions of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is the right one?
SassyHush: Agreed.
FentonsNakedMom: now that is apples and oranges.
Redmagelilith: No, it's oranges and oranges.
FentonsNakedMom: no, i'll go with this.
SassyHush: No, it's oranges and oranges
FentonsNakedMom: Okay, but if someone's interpretation is that Shinji is a balanced individual who has no psychological problems and ignores that he ejaculated all over Asuka's unconscious form, THEY'RE WRONG.
Redmagelilith: Again, Galaxia, stop shoving your beliefs onto others.
SassyHush: Yes.
FentonsNakedMom: I didn't shove my beliefs on you. I would've forgotten you existed if you hadn't emailed me a month later, and then started this conversation this evening.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't shove my beliefs on others, but the two of you have made a special evening of convincing me I'm wrong.
FentonsNakedMom: but hey, if you like wankboy, whatever.
Redmagelilith: We get to the point where we think we've gotten somewhere and then you put your foot into your mouth.
SassyHush: Yes, exactly.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not putting my foot in my mouth. You two are, by admitting you're silly enough to think that you've convinced me that you're anything other than self-absorbed.
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (duck)
FentonsNakedMom: and those stunning debate skills, once again.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm the moron here?
Redmagelilith: No, just a writer. Sassy, if you don't mind. I'm going to leave this chat. You can stay if you want but there is no way we'll get anywhere with her.
SassyHush: Answer a moron as if you are a moron
SassyHush: I'm leaving too.
Redmagelilith has left the room.
FentonsNakedMom: YYAY!!!!
FentonsNakedMom: I WIN!
SassyHush: I've got some yaoi to review
FentonsNakedMom: A WINNER IS ME!
SassyHush has left the room.
About a week ago, I mentioned a bad fic I had reviewed, and the author caught up to me personally in email a month later.
Her minions harassed
arafel and jaina first. They were biding time until they grew enough clit to come see me. (Now, I say that because I'm conceited. It's probably because they're too stupid to come directly to me.)In my previous aforementioned post, I changed names to protect the innocent. I have no such qualms about the stupid.
You have just entered room "Redmagelilith Chat323."
Redmagelilith: Okay, finally it has worked. As I said both Sassy and I want to talk with you.
SassyHush: Yes, we do. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: hi!
SassyHush: I'll come out with it-what's with the flaming?
FentonsNakedMom: define flaming.
SassyHush: NO.
Redmagelilith: A flame is a review that makes a personal attack on the writer.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: There is a big difference between that and a negative review.
FentonsNakedMom: it's great that we agree so far.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* The problem is people can get two different viewpoints from watching the same series.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm rereading my review for the part where i said you were omg a stoopid ho
SassyHush: You cursed at us. . .stated that our viewpoints were OOC on all characters. . .
Redmagelilith: That's not what I meant. You insulted my intellegence and even Sassy agrees with me.
SassyHush: That I do-you insulted both of us.
FentonsNakedMom: you know what? i'm sorry. I offended your viewpoint, and I must apologize.
SassyHush: :-) Thank you.
Redmagelilith: Thank you.
FentonsNakedMom: You've shown me the light. Now I'm going to write a fic where Vash rapes Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborts her himself and eats the fetus.
FentonsNakedMom: Because I interpret that as his dark side.
SassyHush: *sigh
Redmagelilith: Galaxia, that is not what I meant.
SassyHush: No, it is not what we meant
FentonsNakedMom: you took humorous irony and based a serious fic about it.
SassyHush: If you keep up flaming our work and mocking us, your name is going to show up as an anonymous review on every new WolfwoodxVash fic. . .
FentonsNakedMom: that's sweet of you
FentonsNakedMom: and also very mature.
Redmagelilith: You want new blood on the Trigun section, yet flame the heck out of any original and fresh ideas.
FentonsNakedMom: you still haven't pointed out the flame in my review. copy and paste, baby.
SassyHush: And you also flame pairings because they are not VashxMeryl.
FentonsNakedMom: do i know? fuck, i didn't know that.
FentonsNakedMom: forgive my grammar error. *do I now?
Redmagelilith: Watch your mouth. Please, no cussing.
SassyHush: I mean, there's as much to argue AGAINST VxM as for it.
Redmagelilith: Plus in your first flame, you took a scene out of context.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection, your honor. Prosecution still has yet to prove the flames in aforementioned review.
SassyHush: "It's okay. This is in no way a proper or decent fanfic." Flame one.
FentonsNakedMom: alright.
Redmagelilith: "Geez, you know what? Maybe that's too harsh. But it's snazzy." Still flaming.
SassyHush: Then you asked Arafel to flame us.
FentonsNakedMom: I did no such thing.
SassyHush: There's more than one flame from her there
FentonsNakedMom: actually, there's a negative review. Objection number two.
SassyHush: No. It is a flame.
Redmagelilith: "Vash. Who wept in the streets rather than shoot a man who had wiped out the town. " You took the scene out of context.
SassyHush: Your review is a flame. It is beyond simple negativity on the story, it is a personal attack.
FentonsNakedMom: what was proper context?
SassyHush: That you did.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, this was a month ago, at least. Did it take the two of you that long to grow big enough clitorises to talk to me about this?
Redmagelilith: Diablo. Vash had his gun arm shoved right up against Monev's eye. He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
SassyHush: You're flaming right now EG
FentonsNakedMom: this is a conversation. that's just an insult.
SassyHush: Yes, which you seem to be good at.
FentonsNakedMom: danke!
SassyHush: Yes, you are the pro of insulting people.
Redmagelilith: Because I posted the fourth part of Letters and I want you to leave us alone.
Redmagelilith: That's why.
SassyHush: Yes. :-)
FentonsNakedMom: because you posted it to a public forum. where the public can see it. and is free to state their opinions of it. welcome to America and the internet.
FentonsNakedMom: You have a right to free speech. post as many fics as you'd like
FentonsNakedMom: I have a right to read them.
FentonsNakedMom: And a right to say, "Dude. Vash as a drug addict? Please."
Redmagelilith: Did you ever read Dreamwalker, Galaxia?
FentonsNakedMom: Now Sass, I wouldn't say I'm a pro. I am no Empress of the Zing Dynasty.
FentonsNakedMom: can't say I have. The Stephen King novel, or is this a fanfic?
Redmagelilith: Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
FentonsNakedMom: right.
Redmagelilith: You just ignored the author's notes.
FentonsNakedMom: I often do.
Redmagelilith: Well that's a stupid thing to do.
FentonsNakedMom: how so? i don't read the author bio in real books, either.
Redmagelilith: Author's notes often contain warnings.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not afraid of anything.
FentonsNakedMom: Warnings are for people who look for NC-17 and get squeamish about sex scenes.
Redmagelilith: No, they aren't.
SassyHush: No, warnings are for people who don't want to be flamed by their readers
FentonsNakedMom: well, i read your author's notes.
SassyHush: For doing something out of the ordinary.
FentonsNakedMom: and you mentioned this fic is built on theories from a few things, dreamcatcher included.
SassyHush: For example, I warn when I pair VashxMilly rather than VashxMeryl. . .
FentonsNakedMom: but you didn't mention what theory that was.
SassyHush: Because not everyone likes VashxMilly.
FentonsNakedMom: that people can be out of character? i guess that WOULD save yer arse.
Redmagelilith: Dreamwalker... the fic's name is Dreamwalker.
SassyHush: You could at least get that right EG
FentonsNakedMom: Redmagelilith (8:23:03 PM): Stephen King's novel is Dreamcatcber.
Redmagelilith: *Sigh* I have a fic called Dreamwalker.
FentonsNakedMom: Liliith, I will say this. You are trying to put forth arguments and I appreciate that. Sassy, I will say this. You strike me as the brainless oaf in the background, popping up to add a "Yeah!" to whatever Lillith says.
FentonsNakedMom: And give random threats.
FentonsNakedMom: s'alright.
SassyHush: Well, I'm honored. Brainless oaf.
Redmagelilith: No, she has personal interest in the story. She helped with the dialogue and the ideas.
SassyHush: Have you ever even READ my work?
FentonsNakedMom: I think I skimmed Dark Mirror.
SassyHush: Yeah, I co-write Letters and TMB. ^^
FentonsNakedMom: what is TMB?
SassyHush: So before you call me a brainless oaf, keep in mind that I happen to just be sitting in the background here. . .because I am busy
SassyHush: Lilith's Trigun humor fic, The Message Board
Redmagelilith: The Message Board is a fic that claims to be logs of the Gung Ho Guns Message Board
FentonsNakedMom: though not so busy that you'd review WxV fics in my name as a threat to me. I quiver.
FentonsNakedMom: That fic does give me chuckles.
SassyHush: Hehehee.
Redmagelilith: We aren't asking you to like Letters, just to stop insulting our views of the Trigun universe.
SassyHush: Yes, that is all we request. If you leave us alone, I will do no more reviews of WxV as you. . .
FentonsNakedMom: I thought you were busy.
SassyHush: I am, now
FentonsNakedMom: Lillith, I can say 2+2 = 5, and what would you do?
FentonsNakedMom: tell me i was wrong.
Redmagelilith: Sassy and I are in a RP right now.
FentonsNakedMom: should i call you a flamer and say you can't offend my interpretation of math?
Redmagelilith: Rene Descartes used that theory. How do I know 2+3 does not equal 5.
SassyHush: No, because that math is an objective fact
SassyHush: YOUR interpretations of Trigun are not objective fact
SassyHush: Thay are YOUR obsessed fangirl fantasies
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry, right now i'm obsessing over a threesome between myself, ben stiller, and owen wilson. Perhaps I should suggest you're obsessing about Vash = morphine addict
Redmagelilith: No, I am not.
SassyHush: *sigh*
Redmagelilith: You're just like Arafel, who suggested I was an addict.
SassyHush: Yes, she did the same to me. She suggested that I was a violent drug addict
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think you're a morphine addict.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't think either of you are.
FentonsNakedMom: All the kids do ecstasy now, anyway.
Redmagelilith: Do you know anything about Morphine Sulfate?
SassyHush: Not me
FentonsNakedMom: no. I know Trigun.
SassyHush: I don't do drugs at all.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
FentonsNakedMom: they're not good, anyway. Alcohol is so much better.
SassyHush: No. You know your interpretation
Redmagelilith: Morphine Sulfate is a prescription drug. A highly addictive painkiller.
FentonsNakedMom: hey, man, if my dvds are my interpretation of Trigun, there'd be a lot more sex, and a second season where Knives and Meryl did it.
FentonsNakedMom: okay.
SassyHush: Oh, so that means you like VashxMilly?
FentonsNakedMom: no. it would take a really good fic to convince me that that could happen.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash/Milly in a lot of fics seems to be the congeniality pairing in a lot of bad Knives/Meryl.
SassyHush: Well, Knives and Meryl being together does argue against Vash and Meryl
FentonsNakedMom: oh, i don't think they'd be in a relationship
SassyHush: You are contradicting yourself.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm talking hardcore up against the wall wake the neighbours humping, followed by a morning of regret, and Knives cackling at his Machiavellian scheming.
Redmagelilith: And Lina's Elusive Mayfly. Your opinion of that fanfic?
FentonsNakedMom: never read it
SassyHush: You said you did I think. . .
FentonsNakedMom: no, arafel did. my alleged sockpuppet.
Redmagelilith: Actually I think that was Arafel who said it was pretty good and failed to review.
FentonsNakedMom: she mentioned that in the review for junkieVashfic, yes.
Redmagelilith: Vash didn't sink low and decided to try drugs, Galaxia.
FentonsNakedMom: Okay. Here we go again. Perhaps the biggest problem with this is the time you've set the fic in.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this pre-series and show me how low he sank, and how he snapped himself out of it.
FentonsNakedMom: Set this post-series, and show me how far he fell to become this monster.
Redmagelilith: You don't get it.
SassyHush: No, you don't.
Redmagelilith: Vash lost a good portion of his left arm.
FentonsNakedMom: Don't set this between a couple of episodes and ask me to throw my disbelief out the window and accept that a character who I've never seen act like this has SUDDENLY decided to do so.
SassyHush: Over the series, Vash became more and more cynical-did you not see it?
FentonsNakedMom: Yes. Not to this point.
FentonsNakedMom: Also, he smiled and cheerily bought donuts after Wolfwood died, forever trying to hold up his facade.
SassyHush: It could easily be to this point. . .and he springs back between the episodes.
Redmagelilith: The fanfic takes place after "Out of Time".
SassyHush: I don't want to spoil our ending. . .but our fic isn't going to be Vash as an addict forever. He will recover.
Redmagelilith: Someone gave Vash morphine after the July Incident. He was one of the rare few that got hooked on the first dose.
FentonsNakedMom: So he becomes angry and abusive and uses a word I don't even like hearing Knives use in fic, and he bounces down to this point, and then back up? that's one helluva emotional trampoline you're trying to sell me.
FentonsNakedMom: of course, we could let it be that you'll accept this as personal canon, and I won't, and leave it at that.
Redmagelilith: Vash seemed a bit Bipolar in canon to both Sassy and me.
SassyHush: Yeah, ever notice how he was happy one second and suicidal the next?
FentonsNakedMom: never seen him suicidal.
SassyHush: You yourself admitted it in your review.
SassyHush: After he killed Legato.
Redmagelilith: Even his behavior can be a bit suicidal with all that Wild Turkey he drank.
FentonsNakedMom: the shattering of one's life philosophy does not make one bipolar. though i'll admit he thought he deserved to die at that point.
SassyHush: Before that, his reactions in Diablo. . .
FentonsNakedMom: which you still haven't explained how i took that out of context
SassyHush: And the way he reacted in Demon's Eye and Fifth Moon
Redmagelilith: He was going to blow Monev's brains out.
FentonsNakedMom: right
Redmagelilith: Yes, he was going to.
FentonsNakedMom: and he didn't.
FentonsNakedMom: i'm sorry if to me that doesn't equal he would abuse those close to him
FentonsNakedMom: no, wait. i'm not sorry.
Redmagelilith: Meryl was kind of asking for it.
FentonsNakedMom: You just said the wrong thing to a feminist.
SassyHush: Oh, and you didn't flame Dark Mirror. . .
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
SassyHush: There, Vash goes bonkers and kills Meryl.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah, words failed.
FentonsNakedMom: so it was meryl's fault she got hit by the drug addict.
Redmagelilith: She kept pushing Vash's button even though Vash told her to leave him alone.
FentonsNakedMom: You two tell me to keep away, and yet you keep embroiling me in conversation and mentioning your other stories.
FentonsNakedMom: because she's worried about him?
FentonsNakedMom: stupid bitch, loving him and all.
FentonsNakedMom: he should've shot her, too.
Redmagelilith: God, Galaxia, can you ever just stop twisting my words.
FentonsNakedMom: only if you stop twisting mine
Redmagelilith: I haven't twisted your words, but you have twisted mine as well as Sassy's.
SassyHush: Yes, you have. That is why I have not said much.
SassyHush: (@)_(@)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
Redmagelilith: Meanwhile I have tried to be polite as possible.
SassyHush: As have I.
SassyHush: B-P
FentonsNakedMom: I admit I can't argue with Sassy's debate skills.
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
SassyHush: (&)
FentonsNakedMom: what is your goal here anyway?
FentonsNakedMom: did you expect me to apologize and roll over for my reviews?
FentonsNakedMom: tut tut, ladies, i don't do that. it says "Bitch" on my business cards, and there's a reason.
Redmagelilith: No, I'm just asking for you to respect the opinion of others.
SassyHush: Our goal is to ask you to not flame our work in the future
SassyHush: If you don't like it, don't read it.
FentonsNakedMom: Objection your honor.
FentonsNakedMom: OH FUCK THAT ARGUMENT
Redmagelilith: You're killing the creativity in the Trigun section.
FentonsNakedMom: LOL
SassyHush: And you are officially an idiot EG
FentonsNakedMom: okay, admittedly, LOL is what i'm arguing against, but you're kidding me.
FentonsNakedMom: what about my original fic? Vash rapes Lina?
FentonsNakedMom: that's never been done before.
FentonsNakedMom: Vash has a dark side; he just blew up July.
Redmagelilith: Augusta.
FentonsNakedMom: shit, thank you.
SassyHush: Both July and Augusta
FentonsNakedMom: well, immediately before, Augusta.
SassyHush: WASH YOUR MOUSE!!!!!
Redmagelilith: Not possible.
FentonsNakedMom: why not? stop insulting my interpretation
FentonsNakedMom: u r a flamer!
SassyHush: No, you are a flamer.
Redmagelilith: And you can't seem to use caps or decent coloring.
Redmagelilith: Purple on purple?
FentonsNakedMom: I did, once upon a time. And then I gave up in AIM chat.
SassyHush: Yeah, opthalmologist's nightmare
FentonsNakedMom: I see it fine. Fix your monitor.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm halting the talking until you bring up fic again.
SassyHush: One question. Why do you give good reviews to PWP and not to fics with plots?
Redmagelilith: There is nothing wrong with my moniter. But I'm nearsighted. And I have an eye tracking problem.
FentonsNakedMom: What's wrong with PWP?
FentonsNakedMom: And I did review your fic with a plot.
FentonsNakedMom: You don't seem to like it much.
SassyHush: BECAUSE YOU FLAMED.
Redmagelilith: You already said you hated it. There was no need for you to keep on reading it.
FentonsNakedMom: I read it again because I heard I was mentioned in the author's notes. I'm also self-centered.
SassyHush: What is wrong with PWP is that it is pointless, worthless spam that can be written by any horny 13 year old or even by a generator program
SassyHush: It is NOT original fanfic.
FentonsNakedMom: so could "Vash is a junkie!"
FentonsNakedMom: and it could be a songfic!
FentonsNakedMom: so could shakespeare!
FentonsNakedMom: so can poetry!
FentonsNakedMom: so can yaoi!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Meryl!
FentonsNakedMom: so can Vash/Milly!
FentonsNakedMom: get my gist?
SassyHush: You're spamming
SassyHush: Hehe
Redmagelilith: Letter has a plot.
SassyHush: Yes, it does.
FentonsNakedMom: yeah.
FentonsNakedMom: so?
FentonsNakedMom: Vash rapes Lina fic has a plot.
Redmagelilith: Stop that.
FentonsNakedMom: why?
FentonsNakedMom: you're insulting my interpretation
SassyHush: It is something we actually worked on rather than just contrived based on existing plots in vengeance or anger or horniness.
SassyHush: (our plot)
FentonsNakedMom: I write nothing based on vengeance or anger or horniness.
Redmagelilith: You want to glofify rape of a minor.
FentonsNakedMom: I like the characters and get plot bunnies based on them
FentonsNakedMom: You want to glorify drug use.
SassyHush: No we do not
Redmagelilith: Vash is dying bit by bit.
SassyHush: Tell us. Where did we glorify drug use?
FentonsNakedMom: then how would I be glorifying rape?
SassyHush: Because your depiction of it would be done in a manner that would glorify it.
Redmagelilith: Two words: Child Pornography.
SassyHush: Indeed.
FentonsNakedMom: it's not Child Porn. It's about pain and suffering.
FentonsNakedMom: It wouldn't be porn, where I would actually depict the sex
SassyHush: Also, your fic would be based on LEM, an already existing work
SassyHush: Which makes it unoriginal.
FentonsNakedMom: that's funny, since i've never read it.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote child porn?!
SassyHush: NO!
FentonsNakedMom: Dude, Vash raped Lina in LEM? That's sick!
SassyHush: You are twisting our words.
Redmagelilith: No he didn't.
SassyHush: NO, that did not happen
FentonsNakedMom: but my fic isn't original, because it's based on yours.
FentonsNakedMom: which i haven't read
FentonsNakedMom: but i now assume is about Vash raping Lina, thus impregnating her, and then aborting it himself and eating the fetus.
SassyHush: NO. No. No. Read it
SassyHush: It is not about that
FentonsNakedMom: wait, now you're asking me to read your fic?
Redmagelilith: *Sigh*
SassyHush: And I am sick of your twisting our words
FentonsNakedMom: I am sick of your simultaneous shooing/pimping.
FentonsNakedMom: pick one!
Redmagelilith: What are you talking about?
Redmagelilith: You haven't told us how Letters glorifies drug use.
FentonsNakedMom: going to all this trouble to tell me to stop "flaming" you and calling yourselves to my attention a month after I last reviewed, and then telling me to read your other things.
FentonsNakedMom: I never thought it did. It was a comeback to Vash rapes Lina fic glorifies rape.
FentonsNakedMom: which it wouldn't.
Redmagelilith: Because you did that on purpose.
FentonsNakedMom: you wrote about drug abuse by accident?
Redmagelilith: No, that is not what I'm trying to say.
FentonsNakedMom: vague that up for me, then.
Redmagelilith: Use proper english and syntax, por favor.
FentonsNakedMom: I shall.
FentonsNakedMom: Clarify for me, arigatou.
Redmagelilith: There exist fifty billion intereptions of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which is the right one?
SassyHush: Agreed.
FentonsNakedMom: now that is apples and oranges.
Redmagelilith: No, it's oranges and oranges.
FentonsNakedMom: no, i'll go with this.
SassyHush: No, it's oranges and oranges
FentonsNakedMom: Okay, but if someone's interpretation is that Shinji is a balanced individual who has no psychological problems and ignores that he ejaculated all over Asuka's unconscious form, THEY'RE WRONG.
Redmagelilith: Again, Galaxia, stop shoving your beliefs onto others.
SassyHush: Yes.
FentonsNakedMom: I didn't shove my beliefs on you. I would've forgotten you existed if you hadn't emailed me a month later, and then started this conversation this evening.
FentonsNakedMom: I don't shove my beliefs on others, but the two of you have made a special evening of convincing me I'm wrong.
FentonsNakedMom: but hey, if you like wankboy, whatever.
Redmagelilith: We get to the point where we think we've gotten somewhere and then you put your foot into your mouth.
SassyHush: Yes, exactly.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm not putting my foot in my mouth. You two are, by admitting you're silly enough to think that you've convinced me that you're anything other than self-absorbed.
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (octopus)
SassyHush: (duck)
FentonsNakedMom: and those stunning debate skills, once again.
FentonsNakedMom: I'm the moron here?
Redmagelilith: No, just a writer. Sassy, if you don't mind. I'm going to leave this chat. You can stay if you want but there is no way we'll get anywhere with her.
SassyHush: Answer a moron as if you are a moron
SassyHush: I'm leaving too.
Redmagelilith has left the room.
FentonsNakedMom: YYAY!!!!
FentonsNakedMom: I WIN!
SassyHush: I've got some yaoi to review
FentonsNakedMom: A WINNER IS ME!
SassyHush has left the room.
