Her parents should have contracepted.
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40cakesI’m watching a presentation on EWTN (A Christian [Catholic?] cable Network) entitled “Contraception: Why Not?” You know, every time I think people stop telling out and out lies to get their way, I get proven wrong. I should stop having faith in humanity, I really, really should.
I was flipping through the TV listings when I saw the title and decided I HAD to stop and take a peek. When I flipped to it, there was a powerpoint slide up of a man with a dozen roses in his hands and a word bubble over his head. The word bubble said, “I love you and want to be with you...but I won’t give you all of myself.”
Meaning that if you use contraception, you’re really not in love. Because if you truly, truly love someone, you want to put your sperm in them and make babies. I wonder if this woman turns her back to happy, childless couples, and unhappy single women with illegitimate children. (And I’ve learned to do this thanks to working at Venue: Disclaimer - I am neither saying all childless couples are happy nor all single women with babies are unhappy.)
She had a few more slides, most of them supporting something called “Natural Family Planning,” which I may have missed the explanation of (I caught the last 15 minutes), because though it involves abstinence during fertile periods, it’s totally nothing like the rhythm method. Really.
One of the slides had a bulleted list of the “Negatives of Contraception.” It read something like this:
I think we all agree and understand that the first two are just out and out lies, ne? Decreasing the spread of STD’s and babies is the goal of contraceptives! Let’s move on.
Negatively impacts your health. That’s why all my friends who weren’t having intercourse had birth control pills prescribed to them. To make them worse. Curse you, gynecologists! And that’s not even talking about the psychological damage. I’d be so much happier, living with my parents and little James (or Janis) running around the house screaming. The Pill makes me cry inside.
I can’t argue with increased premarital sex. However, how much premarital sex goes on WITHOUT contraception? THAT leads to abortions.
Takes God out of the relationship. ... You know the phrase “I’m just as God made me”? Then God knows perfectly well I am not suited to the job of perpetuating the species. And He knows the same thing about Rob. And then He says, “Oh, thank Me those two aren’t spawning.”
Her argument that couples aren’t giving their all if they don’t want babies has to do with love. She says someone doesn’t really love you if they don’t tell you, “I love your eyes, I love your smile, I want to bring more of you into the world.” Hey, I’ve been told two out of three, and that ain’t bad. Besides, isn’t that placing too much responsibility on your child to say, “You should be exactly like your mother! That’s why I put my sperm in her!”
Can’t the relationship also suffer because of children? How many times have you seen an unhappy couple staying together “for the kids”? Some people resent that they have children because they don’t have the freedom that they did when they were younger and it was just the two of them. Really, the only relationships that I’ve seen suffer because of contraceptive were on soap operas (OMG Erica Kane was using the Pill and her husband Tom didn’t know and he divorced her for not having his babies!!!11)
I’m not even going to comment on that last one.
Ooh, she’s telling a parable! Four married couples got together, one of them using Natural Family Planning (and with four children, all of which really were planned for. Really.), and the other three contracepting (she uses “contracept” as a verb. Is that possible? I’m getting red squiggly lines in Word). They’re being free and open about their sex lives, and three of the women feel like they’re being used as sex objects, that sex is expected of them, and they’re supposed to just give it up. The men are complaining that they have to beg and plead for sex, and that their wives don’t even enjoy the act. Meanwhile, the NFP family is all, “Yo, whatchoo talkin’ bout, heathens?” (she didn’t say that, but it would have made the story infinitely more interesting) “We have plenty o’ teh sex. We can’t get enough! We love it!” And then all the contracepting couples got divorces and the NFP family lived happily ever after. No really. That’s how the story ended.
She just used the phrase “understanding what your sexual powers are for.”
They’re for love! And justice! And in the name of my vagina, I will punish you!
Holy shit the woman is a Professor. Professor Janet E. Smith. Proving that it doesn’t take brains to get a degree.
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I was flipping through the TV listings when I saw the title and decided I HAD to stop and take a peek. When I flipped to it, there was a powerpoint slide up of a man with a dozen roses in his hands and a word bubble over his head. The word bubble said, “I love you and want to be with you...but I won’t give you all of myself.”
Meaning that if you use contraception, you’re really not in love. Because if you truly, truly love someone, you want to put your sperm in them and make babies. I wonder if this woman turns her back to happy, childless couples, and unhappy single women with illegitimate children. (And I’ve learned to do this thanks to working at Venue: Disclaimer - I am neither saying all childless couples are happy nor all single women with babies are unhappy.)
She had a few more slides, most of them supporting something called “Natural Family Planning,” which I may have missed the explanation of (I caught the last 15 minutes), because though it involves abstinence during fertile periods, it’s totally nothing like the rhythm method. Really.
One of the slides had a bulleted list of the “Negatives of Contraception.” It read something like this:
- Increased chances of STD’s
- Increased chances of unwanted pregnancy and abortion
- Negatively impacts woman’s physical and psychological health
- Increased premarital sex
- Takes God out of relationship
- Relationship suffers because couple is not giving their all
- Harms society
I think we all agree and understand that the first two are just out and out lies, ne? Decreasing the spread of STD’s and babies is the goal of contraceptives! Let’s move on.
Negatively impacts your health. That’s why all my friends who weren’t having intercourse had birth control pills prescribed to them. To make them worse. Curse you, gynecologists! And that’s not even talking about the psychological damage. I’d be so much happier, living with my parents and little James (or Janis) running around the house screaming. The Pill makes me cry inside.
I can’t argue with increased premarital sex. However, how much premarital sex goes on WITHOUT contraception? THAT leads to abortions.
Takes God out of the relationship. ... You know the phrase “I’m just as God made me”? Then God knows perfectly well I am not suited to the job of perpetuating the species. And He knows the same thing about Rob. And then He says, “Oh, thank Me those two aren’t spawning.”
Her argument that couples aren’t giving their all if they don’t want babies has to do with love. She says someone doesn’t really love you if they don’t tell you, “I love your eyes, I love your smile, I want to bring more of you into the world.” Hey, I’ve been told two out of three, and that ain’t bad. Besides, isn’t that placing too much responsibility on your child to say, “You should be exactly like your mother! That’s why I put my sperm in her!”
Can’t the relationship also suffer because of children? How many times have you seen an unhappy couple staying together “for the kids”? Some people resent that they have children because they don’t have the freedom that they did when they were younger and it was just the two of them. Really, the only relationships that I’ve seen suffer because of contraceptive were on soap operas (OMG Erica Kane was using the Pill and her husband Tom didn’t know and he divorced her for not having his babies!!!11)
I’m not even going to comment on that last one.
Ooh, she’s telling a parable! Four married couples got together, one of them using Natural Family Planning (and with four children, all of which really were planned for. Really.), and the other three contracepting (she uses “contracept” as a verb. Is that possible? I’m getting red squiggly lines in Word). They’re being free and open about their sex lives, and three of the women feel like they’re being used as sex objects, that sex is expected of them, and they’re supposed to just give it up. The men are complaining that they have to beg and plead for sex, and that their wives don’t even enjoy the act. Meanwhile, the NFP family is all, “Yo, whatchoo talkin’ bout, heathens?” (she didn’t say that, but it would have made the story infinitely more interesting) “We have plenty o’ teh sex. We can’t get enough! We love it!” And then all the contracepting couples got divorces and the NFP family lived happily ever after. No really. That’s how the story ended.
She just used the phrase “understanding what your sexual powers are for.”
They’re for love! And justice! And in the name of my vagina, I will punish you!
Holy shit the woman is a Professor. Professor Janet E. Smith. Proving that it doesn’t take brains to get a degree.
http://www.omsoul.com
>^..^
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Date: 2003-10-05 06:27 pm (UTC)no seriously. I hate people that out and out lie. I hate religion for that. I hate religion for the fact that they are like poloticians.
grrr. My roomates friend watches that channel all the time. She found a condom in out room (not even mine) and flipped out about how they cause STDS and infections.
We just laughed at her.
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Date: 2003-10-05 06:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-05 06:57 pm (UTC)Increased risk of dying in car accidents? That's a new one. Compared to whom? People who don't use cars?
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Date: 2003-10-05 06:47 pm (UTC)I actually feel better since I have ... contacepted... ^_^;
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Date: 2003-10-05 07:01 pm (UTC)stupid, stupid, stupid people....grrrr.....
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Date: 2003-10-05 07:51 pm (UTC)What kills me is that people believe that shit. But the way I see it, if they want to believe it and contract an STD because they believe it, that's their problem, not mine, and I"m not going to sweat over it. Cold hearted of me, I know. ^_^
And I lost faith in humanity a LONG time ago. The ones I believe in and have faith in, aside from God, are individuals, my friends, my family, my loved ones. Other than that, everyone else is rotten.
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Date: 2003-10-05 09:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2003-10-05 09:07 pm (UTC)I also love how they claim that contraceptives "negatively impacts woman’s physical and psychological health". Because, you know, without birth control I seriously wouldn't be able to function one week out of every month. I'd have to say that birth control drastically improves my physical health, but what do I know. I'm just a heathen, after all.
Huh?
Date: 2003-10-05 09:07 pm (UTC)Oral contraceptives do affect your hormones, so - like hormone replacement therapy - there are risks that come with messing with normal hormonal levels. Some risks implicated in the use of oral contraceptives, are a modest risk of breast cancer, cardiovascular disease, and venous thromboembolism. However, hormones are hard to predict, and oral contraceptives have also been shown to be protective for ovarian cancer.
Condoms, however, don't cause any medical problems that we're aware of. In fact, they're pretty effective if you use them correctly (like not re-using them - *shudder*). Sometimes, they lend people a false sense of security, but if you understand that the thin layer of latex and spermicide isn't a full-proof plan (and you accept the risk), then hey. Go for it, dude.
Contraceptives are not going to cause the decline of modern America, in all of its righteous and happy shiny glory. Society would do worse from having to shoulder the burden of millions of unwanted children. If there needs to be a change, it isn't in banning contraceptives or making Suzy think she can get pregnant by holding hands with Tommy. It's to educate the public and to shift the societal mindset about responsibility and consequences.
Ok, that's the end of my tirade. ^__^*
Just for your reference, here's an article.
Althuis MD. Brogan DR. Coates RJ. Daling JR. Gammon MD. Malone KE. Schoenberg JB. Brinton LA. Hormonal content and potency of oral contraceptives and breast cancer risk among young women. [Journal Article] British Journal of Cancer. 88(1):50-7, 2003 Jan 13.
Re: Huh?
Date: 2003-10-05 09:25 pm (UTC)I know all the risks for oral contraceptives (i've read that little fold-out pamphlet with the pills numerous times, front and back :-p ), but I also know I can deal with weight gain and increased blood pressure from the Pill more than I can deal with weight gain and increased blood pressure from a child.
And I make sure to donate generously to Breast Cancer charity now so when I eventually get it, they can fix me ^_^V
>^..^
Re: Huh?
Date: 2003-10-06 06:51 am (UTC)I've seen other crazy people on that network (which isn't ALWAYS that whacked out) that say you should eat according to the Bible - no hooved animals, no dairy, etc. It was very strange. O_o I wonder about them sometimes - their minds must be such interesting surreal places.
Huh
Date: 2003-10-06 01:26 am (UTC)